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Old 05-30-2013, 10:53 PM
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Default Caney "fished out"?

As I said in one of my earlier posts, I've returned to the Caney after about a fifteen year (geez, that makes me feel old) absence. Bumped into a guy yesterday who stated the following opinion: " up till about ten years ago, the Caney was one of the top 5 tailwaters for trout east of that big muddy creek. But, now it is fished out. I honestly, couldn't say, anybody care to comment on that opinion?
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:10 PM
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I have heard about the "glory" years of the Caney, and I hear it isn't as good now....but from my understanding it has to do with lower water quality due to working on the dam. I can tell you from experience....it is by no means fished out!
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:37 PM
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If they'll ever quit generating I'll let you know what I think.
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:50 PM
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If they'll ever quit generating I'll let you know what I think.
I don't care who you are, that right there was funny!
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Old 05-31-2013, 02:23 PM
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Look back at past posts from the dearly departed "old sailor" (not deceased, just easily P'-Off) but a great fisherman none the less. I wouldn't think there was a trout longer than my hand in there, but he consistently caught...well just check em out.
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Old 05-31-2013, 03:14 PM
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Yep it's fished out. Better take your 2wt to the Smokey Mountains and catch fish over there.

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Old 05-31-2013, 03:43 PM
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Long periods of sustained generation are tough on the fish that are under 16" or so. I don't know if they get eaten by predators, or if they can't find enough food (since they're eating bugs instead of fish at that size), or if they wander downstream to Old Hickory when there aren't riffles to keep them oriented to home, or what. Maybe it's a combination of a bunch of factors.
All I know is that when the river is high for several months straight, the smaller fish numbers will be low when it comes down. It takes several months of stocking to fully replenish it. The bigger fish seem to do okay even when the water is high for a long time.

For that reason, the river is best in drought years when there isn't a lot of generation, and it falls off in rainy years. With the work on the dam, it has been much worse because whenever the lake gets above 630, they'll generate constantly until it comes down.

The canoe and kayak traffic can be a pain in the ass but I don't think fishing pressure is the problem. They can dump in more stockers than people can take out when everything is going right.

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Old 05-31-2013, 08:16 PM
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The Caney is fished out. I would recommend to take up carp fishing on the Stones River. I would also not recommend kayaking on the Caney either due to the poor water quality.

In all seriousness I have been fishing the Caney for over 25 years and what we have seen happen is it has switched from a predominately Rainbow river to a predominately Brown river. As some have mentioned the dam repair has messed with the fishing and the water quality to some degree. Another thing is there was a big Rainbow kill last year at the hatchery which kept the Caney from being stocked with Rainbows.

Trust me the Caney still fishes as good as it did 20 years ago and probably even better. Take your time to learn the river and fish it religiously and you will see that it is a great trout fishery. True, it can humble you at times but it can also be very rewarding.

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Old 05-31-2013, 08:54 PM
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The slot is really going to help the quality on the river and has a bunch already. Is it fished out simple short answer is no. A bunch of factors contribute to it not being as good as when the sluice first started. They stock the river twice a month and the fish problem at DHNFH last year hurt. If you are a fisherman that just wades into a well worn spot like the dam or happy but never adjust anything once on the water you could easily get blanked. Seen it many times an angler complaining in the parking lot about the fishing but I went on to have a good day.
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Look back at past posts from the dearly departed "old sailor" (not deceased, just easily P'-Off) but a great fisherman none the less. I wouldn't think there was a trout longer than my hand in there, but he consistently caught...well just check em out.
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Trust me ... There are a lot of 5 to 12 plus pounders Swimming in these waters .... ... <'TK><
I believe it, I've seen a few of them. Its just rare for one to be on the end of my line.
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Old 06-02-2013, 08:04 PM
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Interesting posts, all. Especially, Browntrout's observation that the river has gone from "predominantly rainbow" to "predominantly brown". I know rainbows are all I ever caught there when I did first fish it. I kind of figured the guy didn't have a clue. First of all, couldn't really understand how a regularly stocked tail water could be "fished out". BD's obversations make a lot more sense. Guess the guy thought since he couldn't catch em, then must be no fish.
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Old 06-02-2013, 08:05 PM
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Yep it's fished out. Better take your 2wt to the Smokey Mountains and catch fish over there.

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Old 06-02-2013, 09:28 PM
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Interesting posts, all. Especially, Browntrout's observation that the river has gone from "predominantly rainbow" to "predominantly brown". I know rainbows are all I ever caught there when I did first fish it. I kind of figured the guy didn't have a clue. First of all, couldn't really understand how a regularly stocked tail water could be "fished out". BD's obversations make a lot more sense. Guess the guy thought since he couldn't catch em, then must be no fish.
I might add also that I mainly fish when they are generating. As mentioned earlier go back and search for posts by old sailor. Dude is 100% legit the best trout fisherman up on the Caney. From reading his posts you will see that the Caney is alive and well.

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Old 06-02-2013, 09:52 PM
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I have just as much luck there now...when I can fish it..as I did 10 years ago. I know it's not "fished out". I wish it was "canoed out".
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