I just tested a cast master under a float about 18" to 24" and with a pop and pull retrieve caught about one every two minutes, as long as it was light out. That also was in ruff and windy weather, but soon as it got real cloudy and rainy it got harder for the fish to see it. I still caught fish but not as often. The cast master I was using was the smallest all silver one I could find and I was fishing from shore and having a great time............woody
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