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rsimms 12-06-2012 01:45 PM

Corps agrees to public hearing on fishing restriction
 
Corps of Engineers agrees to public hearing on fishing restriction

http://www.nooga.com/158860/corps-of...g-restriction/

MNfisher 12-06-2012 02:50 PM

Does anyone know How we can get an online petition signed by as many as possible to bring to the meeting?

CreekWalker 12-06-2012 05:03 PM

I applaud Senator Alexander's efforts. Notice that he is being diplomatic and professional and I can only hope that my peers do the same when they have their opportunity to voice their opinions.

Notice that he encourages them to “look at alternatives to the new policy” and requested that “if the corps moves forward in restricting fishing in dam tailwaters, to restrict it to the smallest area possible, consistent with the corps’ safety requirements.”

Well said.

Barking "well if so then I'm just going to x, y, & z" or "screw the government", etc. only makes that person sound seemingly unintelligent.

Don't get me wrong I am opposed to this restriction 100% but if they come to a compromise and give the public another safety rule or two I'd be happy as can be.

Let's use facts such as # of accidents in tailwaters amongst fisherman versus # of accidents on the lake(s) where a jet ski was involved as one of many examples!......

Travis C. 12-06-2012 06:20 PM

I personally think that this is simply a PR move on their (Corps) part due to the ground swell of response.

Ultimately, they can do as they wish regarding waterways and in the end say we let your voice be heard but in the end this is best for you.

SAMBOLIE 12-06-2012 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CreekWalker (Post 27250)
I applaud Senator Alexander's efforts. Notice that he is being diplomatic and professional and I can only hope that my peers do the same when they have their opportunity to voice their opinions.

Notice that he encourages them to “look at alternatives to the new policy” and requested that “if the corps moves forward in restricting fishing in dam tailwaters, to restrict it to the smallest area possible, consistent with the corps’ safety requirements.”

Well said.

Barking "well if so then I'm just going to x, y, & z" or "screw the government", etc. only makes that person sound seemingly unintelligent.

Don't get me wrong I am opposed to this restriction 100% but if they come to a compromise and give the public another safety rule or two I'd be happy as can be.

Let's use facts such as # of accidents in tailwaters amongst fisherman versus # of accidents on the lake(s) where a jet ski was involved as one of many examples!......

Especially among the genius government tyrants.:D

nofish 12-06-2012 06:33 PM

Arghhh

nofish 12-06-2012 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=Travis C.;27251]I personally think that this is simply a PR move on their (Corps) part due to the ground swell of response.

Ultimately they can do what they want.


I agree. I don't need anyone especially the government deciding what's in my best interest!!!

jad2t 12-06-2012 08:03 PM

That's exactly what this is, it's a PR move to make it look like they're actually concerned with the opinions of the people who pay their salaries. This is clearly another example of Government overreach and it's sickening to think we will no longer get to enjoy the benefit of fishing below the dams. Do it as much as you can while we're still allowed to guys, it's over soon.

jad2t 12-06-2012 08:04 PM

Since this just restriction on the Cumberland River' dams, fishing below Center Hill is still allowed, right? For now anyway...

tkwalker 12-06-2012 08:29 PM

Here it is ... <'TK><
 
:)
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsimms (Post 27240)
Corps of Engineers agrees to public hearing on fishing restriction

http://www.nooga.com/158860/corps-of...g-restriction/


The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has agreed to hold public hearings regarding a proposal to restrict access to tailwater fishing areas on the Cumberland River.

U.S. Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) met Thursday with Lt. Col. James A. DeLapp, commander of the Nashville District of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, at Alexander’s request to discuss the corps’ decision to restrict access to fishing areas in dam tailwaters on the Cumberland River System, which Alexander said is “a significant source of enjoyment for Tennesseans and visitors from around the world.”

In the meeting, Alexander asked DeLapp to give the public the opportunity to voice their concerns and hold several public meetings to take input from the people and communities affected by the decision. Alexander also encouraged DeLapp to “look at alternatives to the new policy” and requested that “if the corps moves forward in restricting fishing in dam tailwaters, to restrict it to the smallest area possible, consistent with the corps’ safety requirements.”

Alexander thanked DeLapp for agreeing to both of his requests.

Alexander is the senior Republican on the Senate Appropriations Committee’s Subcommittee on Energy and Water, which has jurisdiction over the Army Corps of Engineers.

On Nov. 20, Alexander sent a letter to the Army Corps of Engineers, urging reconsideration of their decision.

He wrote: “At a minimum, I believe that any change of this magnitude should be subject to a public comment period, so those who enjoy fishing can have an opportunity to express their concerns and propose alternatives to improve public safety. Changes should only be considered after a thorough review of all public comments and suggestions.”

In the letter, Alexander requested a personal report on the situation from DeLapp prior to any change in practice. That personal report was delivered in today’s meeting with Alexander in his Washington office.

Travis C. 12-06-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jad2t (Post 27257)
Since this just restriction on the Cumberland River' dams, fishing below Center Hill is still allowed, right? For now anyway...

My understanding is all dams on the Cumberland River watershed. That would include Center Hill, Percy and Dale Hollow.

gboyce 12-07-2012 06:56 AM

I do not think that this is a PR move. I just medically retired from the military after 21 years and have an idea of what he is trying to do. Every Commander that takes over a base, squadron, unit or what have you always tries to leave a legacy behind. IMO this man is making these decision for that reason. When you come up for promotion at those levels they look at what you have achieved. In his case it will be prevented XX number of deaths on the Cumberland river by enacting said new restriction. Again this is just my opinion but it seems to follow suit with what I have seen the last 21 years.

MNfisher 12-07-2012 07:25 AM

Whether a PR move or not, I am grateful that they decided to hold a meeting! It gives me light that this may not happen. Call me optimistic, but I see a lot of very pessimistic posts in this thread. If we consider it over already...it is then destined to be over. I see this meeting as a positive step!

Travis C. 12-07-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNfisher (Post 27278)
Whether a PR move or not, I am grateful that they decided to hold a meeting! It gives me light that this may not happen. Call me optimistic, but I see a lot of very pessimistic posts in this thread. If we consider it over already...it is then destined to be over. I see this meeting as a positive step!

I am glad they are giving the public a chance to voice concern as well and hope you're right it being a positive step.

SAMBOLIE 12-07-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNfisher (Post 27278)
Whether a PR move or not, I am grateful that they decided to hold a meeting! It gives me light that this may not happen. Call me optimistic, but I see a lot of very pessimistic posts in this thread. If we consider it over already...it is then destined to be over. I see this meeting as a positive step!

I bet you see light when you hear Obama give an optimistic speech. Since he talks out his ass there is no light at the end of his tunnel.:p

MNfisher 12-07-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAMBOLIE (Post 27293)
I bet you see light when you hear Obama give an optimistic speech. Since he talks out his ass there is no light at the end of his tunnel.:p

Hahaha! I don't listen to a word Obama says!

lupanfreitag 12-08-2012 09:01 AM

Thankful
 
I wrote to Alexander and thanked his office. Please do and ask other to also. It will help the cause.

tkwalker 12-10-2012 01:46 PM

Diane Black's Response <'TK><
 
Pretty much what I expected ... She's not going to get involved yet and wants us to contact the Corps .. ... She doesn't have a clue .. I received this today ... Most of you probably did as well ... <'TK>< :(



Dear Mr. Walker,



Thank you for contacting me regarding boat access to Nashville District Dams. As a proud member of the Congressional Sportsman's Caucus, and a boat owner myself, I recognize the importance of access to waterways for fishing and other recreational activities. I am proud to have worked to uphold Tennessee's rich outdoor tradition both on the state level as well as the federal level.



Upon receiving your correspondence, I contacted the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to learn more about this proposal. The Corps indicated that their Nashville district is developing a plan to restrict access to hazardous waterways beginning early next year, with a public release of the plan expected sometime this month. I am hopeful that this plan will strike a balance between respect for the rights of boat owners and fisherman while upholding public safety and security. I look forward to reviewing the plan once it is released and urge you to do the same.



I also encourage you to contact the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers directly so that they may know your thoughts on this issue as well. They can be reached by phone at 615-736-7161 or via US mail at the address listed below:



CELRN-PA

P.O. Box 1070

Nashville, TN 37202-1070

tkwalker 12-10-2012 10:42 PM

Reply to Diane Black <'TK><
 
Diane, you are a day short ... Your staff needs to pick up the pace ... This has been out since mid November ... Members of this website which is well over 2000 have been contacting everyone ... including the Corps ... We know about the greater things that is more important to our country than this .. And you need to try to do what you can do (don't sell us out like Bob Corker did) But please stay abreast of what is going on in your Neighborhood ... Your email came in after the fact ..... We haven't been setting on our hands ... Check these out ... Every post !! http://fishingtn.com/showthread.php?t=5937... http://fishingtn.com/showthread.php?t=6034... Thanks for any help in this matter ... If you will really research this you will find out that the Corps really does not have any basis for the .. safety or sercurity ??? Contact Doug Markham of the TWRA He will enlighten you ...

Thanks for any real concern and help in the future on this matter ...

Capt. Terry K. Walker
USCG retired
Owner Fishingtn.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Congressman Diane Black <TN06DBIMA@mail.house.gov>
To: oldoutboardbarn <oldoutboardbarn@aol.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:37 am
Subject: Responding to your message





Dear Mr. Walker,

Thank you for contacting me regarding boat access to Nashville District Dams. As a proud member of the Congressional Sportsman's Caucus, and a boat owner myself, I recognize the importance of access to waterways for fishing and other recreational activities. I am proud to have worked to uphold Tennessee's rich outdoor tradition both on the state level as well as the federal level.

Upon receiving your correspondence, I contacted the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to learn more about this proposal. The Corps indicated that their Nashville district is developing a plan to restrict access to hazardous waterways beginning early next year, with a public release of the plan expected sometime this month. I am hopeful that this plan will strike a balance between respect for the rights of boat owners and fisherman while upholding public safety and security. I look forward to reviewing the plan once it is released and urge you to do the same.

I also encourage you to contact the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers directly so that they may know your thoughts on this issue as well. They can be reached by phone at 615-736-7161 or via US mail at the address listed below:

CELRN-PA
P.O. Box 1070
Nashville, TN 37202-1070



Sincerely,

Diane Black
Member of Congress
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